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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Thursday, September 03, 2009

A headline sadly not meant as a joke

NYTimes: Conservatives See Need for Serious Health Debate

6 Comments:

  • [rant alert]

    The conservative health care debate revolves around how to make sure insurance companies, pharma, and for-profit hospital/corporations can maximize their profits with the least amount of accountability.

    EVERYTHING with conservatives/Republicans centers around their God. And that god is money... unrestrained, amoral, lust for wealth at any cost.

    By Blogger -epm, at 11:41 AM  

  • that's all true, and yet somehow on the evening news and Sunday shows, no one ever says 'you know, it's all about profit and maintaining corporate dominance on the Republican side'.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:35 PM  

  • I certainly agree that there's a money driver behind the GOP, but there's also an untalked about political driver.

    If the Dems could effectively supply better cheaper healthcare, it would be another body blow to the Repubs. FDR's social programs put the Dems in control for decades. LBJ's "Great Society" stuff kept the Dems in Congressional majority for more or less 20 years.....

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 1:29 PM  

  • Fine. Money and Power. But they only want the power to improve their financial lot. Not for some altruistic, patriotic reasons.

    The screaming fringe is a different story. Their just frickin' angry and paranoid... fed a constant diet of fear and Fox, they've subjected themselves to their own kind of psychological torture.

    By Blogger -epm, at 2:38 PM  

  • Not particularly following the discussion here, but I think one sign that things are not going well for the Dems re the helathcare issue is the increasing use of the term "Obamacare" to identify a health plan. I noticed that Ted Kennedy promoted "universal health care," a term that is less inflammatory. I think the Obamacare term subconsciously confounds personal dislike of the president with the healthcare issue. For me this feels like the turning point in the discussion and possibly anticipates yet another failure to improve the healthcare in this nation.

    By Anonymous Molly, at 3:14 PM  

  • Molly, I think that's a good point as its origin comes from derision, and it's now being accepted in mainstream media as a shorthand.

    (And, I predicted back in July that we'd end up with a nothing bill which reworks preexisting conditions, and some of the cancellations policies. I think we're likely to get some kind of bill that can be claimed as reform even though it's just a reworking around the edges.

    And then we've gotta wait for another Dem President to take another run at this thing.)

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:29 PM  

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