Shooting at the Holocaust museum.
With all the right wing loonies going on shooting sprees, maybe someone might want to go back to Sarah Palin and all the others who created such an environment for hate in the late 2008 election and ask them if they're still proud of their rhetoric and what it's apparently wrought.
(Also from the campaign, turns out the shooter was a "birther.")
Similarly, maybe we should go back to those "mainstream Republicans" who just months ago were shouting "tyranny" and "resistance."
After the shooter in New York who was (falsely) convinced that Obama would take his guns away.... After the Tiller murder.....
There's got to be a point at which some responsibility must attach.
(Also from the campaign, turns out the shooter was a "birther.")
Similarly, maybe we should go back to those "mainstream Republicans" who just months ago were shouting "tyranny" and "resistance."
After the shooter in New York who was (falsely) convinced that Obama would take his guns away.... After the Tiller murder.....
There's got to be a point at which some responsibility must attach.
posted by mikevotes at
2:42 PM
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So basically, that "Right Wing Extremist" report DHS put out -- and that the right wing pissed and moaned about -- turns out to be prophetic. Kinda like how all Richard Clarke's warning were prophetic... but scoffed at by Republicans.
It's time to say, "You're either with us, or with the assassins." to the right wing and their media outlets.
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-epm, at 3:30 PM
Actually the alleged shooter appears to be anti-Christian as well as anti-semitic, judging by things he wrote at this site:
http://www.antichrist.net/vonbrunn.html
The link is getting heavy traffic and may not load for you so here is a taste:
"The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION"
The guy sounds like an equal opportunity wacko.
Also, he does not appear to have acquired his crazy ideas from Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh, given that he was arrested threatening to blow up the Federal Reserve in 1981.
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Patrick, at 3:52 PM
It's easy to incite people to act. That's why I take such a hard stand against the hate speech that has been going on. That's why I fought against the Republicans using fear to motivate the country to follow their war.
They take no responsibility, for they truly believe there is no connection. Their delusion is complete.
They have to ask themselves why is it that these killers come from the far right of ideology? And that's all my post says today.
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Unknown, at 4:19 PM
EPM, if you'll remember, I predicted some of this before that report. For some reason, I took a great fascination in the 90's militia movement, and the conditions are somewhatr similar.
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Patrick, Every one of these guys is a wacko. It's pretty much predicate to start shooting.
I get your point that he's not mainstream, but this is the fourth or fifth right wing shooter in recent months. And, although he is crazy, part of the environment he comes out of is the fringe right, so, somebody validating that birther crap is feeding on into the further and crazier right.
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Time, it's not like they're ordering these people to go, but by creating a rather extremist speech that helps create that far right environment which allows these people to validate their crazy.
Look at the Tiller stuff where mainstream folks were labelling him killer, or the shooter in NY who believed the (false) hype about taking away guns.
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mikevotes, at 4:46 PM
Now that you jog my memory, yes, Prophet Mike, I remember your predictions :)
All these guys (and it's always men, isn't it) are wacko. But they're not crazy. They're deeply, deeply invested in an extreme, black/white, world view (ideology, religion, philosophy... call it what you will). And each one believes they're defending "good" and exterminating "evil." Some glom onto Christianity, some the Islam, some to White Supremacy, some to the cult of Guns and some to the cult of Anarchy (anti-government). At some level, however, there is usually an element of religion as justification for extermination.
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-epm, at 8:22 PM
Certainty can be very dangerous....
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mikevotes, at 10:25 PM
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