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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Monday, January 05, 2009

More Panetta reaction (Updated)

The LATimes adds Sen Rockefeller to the dissension list. The Cable has a collection of insider responses. Danger Room has some more.

Again, there must be some backstory that we're not getting. I don't know if it's reining in/cleaning up policies (torture, renditions, ops) or if it's controlling the way they distribute information, but there's some reason the Obama folks want a savvy loyalist manager/outsider in that post. And you gotta figure Obama's DNI, Dennis Blair had to have signed off on this.

It's interesting to contrast that motivation with the negative responses of long time intel insiders and Sens. Rockefeller and Feinstein, the outgoing and incoming Senate intel chairs.

On the other hand, I would see this appointment as a sign that the CIA may regain its prominence over military intel, the way the Bush administration ran things.

Later: Interesting. It looks like Feinstein and Rockefeller may have been intentionally cut out of the loop. That's a big deal considering Feinstein runs the confirmation hearing. And this is worth reading, too.

And more interesting here, although I don't agree with it all.

I'm tellin' ya. There's more story here than we know.

Also: Sorta related. A story from a US rendered detainee who was shuttled through Egypt and tortured before being brought to Guantanamo. Within the first few days many suspected he was a nobody, "a braggart," but he was sent through the torture system anyway.

Later Still: Perle, Feith and Ledeen approve of Panetta?


  • "It's interesting to contrast that motivation with the negative responses of long time intel insiders and Sens. Rockefeller and Feinstein"

    I picked up on this too. For me the key words here are "long time intel insiders." Sens. Rockefeller and Feinstein were not exactly pushing the frontier in holding Bush accountable for it domestic spying practices. In fact I believe there was some hand wringing and foot dragging on their part on pushing this issue. They frustrated many civil libertarians and progressives over the past 8 yrs on such issues. They may be a little too attached to the institutions....

    By Blogger -epm, at 7:41 AM  

  • Yeah, Feistein and Rockefeller are very longtime insider. I would think they're more linked with the longtime professionals of the agency.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:47 AM  

  • I'm thinking they're linked more to longtime bureaucrats. You know, the single malt and cigar types.... the back-slapping insiders. Not necessarily the real intelligence professionals.

    There are politicos and there are professionals. I'm wondering if Feinstein and Rockefeller are more connected to the former than the latter.

    Your right about the missing back story. If the senators were kept out of the loop then perhaps the Obama team sees them as an obstacle for achieving there goals.

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:19 AM  

  • I know you're not a big DKos fan, but this diary entry is kind of interesting. He/she also includes several links to what might fill in some of the background, though I haven't followed all of them.

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:33 AM  

  • Probably somewhat linked to political insiders. As long as Feinstein and Rockefeller have been involved in this, they've certainly built relationships, and the most likely for those relationships would be the Washington "what I think is best for the agency" guys.

    And, as referenced in that diary, there is that argument that those two really okayed all the worst of the Bush policies, so if the plan was to undo those, maybe their input on their choice for the post would have been messy anyway.

    (PS. I don't think it's so, but they would especially be cut out if Panetta's job is to clean out all those folks who pushed the policies.)

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 10:59 AM  

  • By Blogger raybanoutlet001, at 8:27 PM  

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