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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Monday, December 17, 2007

Picture of the Day - 2
















It's always sad when former stars start doing the Rotary Club circuit.

(President Bush speaks about the economy at a Rotary Club meeting, Monday, Dec. 17, 2007. (AP/Charles Dharapak))

posted by mikevotes at 2:38 PM

11 Comments:

  • pathetic...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:26 PM  

  • I was just thinking today how long it's been since I've seen him on the news.

    We're all so anxious for the next president that he;s irrelevant.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:43 PM  

  • Off topic, but could you respond to Paul Krugman's column in today's Times calling Obama the "anti-change candidate."

    By Blogger Reality-Based Educator, at 8:18 PM  

  • Obviously I offended you with the one fit of anti-Clinton. I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to pick a fight, I was just so angry that Bill Clinton had gone to the Republican tactic from '04 "vote for X and you'll die."

    I'm glad you have passion, but frankly, when it comes down to it, I don't care that much whether it's Obama or Clinton. I could easily and happily support either one. I see good strengths and qualities in either.

    To your specific request, I don't generally read newspaper editorials at all. I've read some of the backstory on the Krugman/Obama thing and I assume that's what you want me to comment on, but I generally don't get into editorials.

    So, sorry if I made you mad. It wasn't my intention. I just twisted off at the echoes of '04.

    Mike

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:15 PM  

  • And besides, I'm in Texas. Our primaries are always too late too matter.

    Mike

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:17 PM  

  • Since you won't read it, here is the Krugman column in a nutshell:

    1. Obama is gullible
    2. Obama is easily misled by right-wing propaganda
    3. A vote for Obama will be a vote for a continuation of the left's capitulation to the right wing.

    On health care, on social security, on education, on religion and a host of other issues, Obama is the LEAST progressive candidate in the field. He has a lot in common with Joe Lieberman in fact (and if you remember, I said this in a comment on your blog about two years ago.)

    Unfortunately, some progressives - perhaps won over by his war policy or smitten by his persona - do not see the concessionary nature of his personality.

    BTW, I am NOT a HRC supporter. I have not voted for her here in NY in either 2000 or 2006. I don't know who I am voting for. I just know who I am NOT voting for - and that's Obama.

    By Blogger Reality-Based Educator, at 6:03 AM  

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    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:39 AM  

  • Okay.

    I went back and looked at the post that I think started this, and your reaction seems out of whack to what I've written.

    http://bornatthecrestoftheempire.blogspot.com/2007/12/picture-of-day_16.html

    I would guess that you sincerely believe that Obama is a huge mistake, and I understand that, but I don't want to fight over this, at least not at the level of passion you're at.

    It's like you're taking out a broader frustration on me, because, I haven't really said anything pro-Obama or anti-Clinton.

    I critiqued a tactic, and made the observation that a Hillary Clinton administration would not have the same smoothing charisma of a Bill Clinton administration.

    And you seem very angry, and I don't get it.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:50 AM  

  • I think we have to bear in mind that, no matter which Democrat gets elected, the vetoes will end, the police state will end, the Long War will end, the supply-side 'economics' will end, the arrogance toward the rest of the world will end, torture will end or be severely limited, and the over-the-top secrecy and cronyism will end.

    Even if we are only trading one ventriloquist dummy for another, it looks as if we will have an improvement on a lot of levels.
    I remind myself of this when I look at the shortcomings of Obama and Clinton as candidates. Personally, I like Edwards and I intend to caucus for him if he's still in the race by the time Minnesota gets its shot.

    By Blogger Todd Dugdale , at 8:51 AM  

  • I don't really have a problem with Edwards either.

    And I think you hit on my belief that we're likely to get slight improvement, ending some of the more egregious sins.

    But I'll take that.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:02 AM  

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