Sunnis shooting down aircraft in Anbar with missiles?
Another helicopter went down in Anbar, no fatalities, 18 wounded. This is the third aircraft to go down in Anbar in two weeks.
At this point there's no evidence to say that these were shot down, the military holds that all three went down for mechanical reasons, but I do want to point back to this unconfirmed AP report four days ago. (UPDATED LINK.)
I would treat this as iffy rumor at this point, but even the threat of an effective anti-aircraft missile would be disastrous for the US.
If you look back to the Soviet experience in Afghanistan, it was the arrival of the US made Stinger AA missiles that really crippled their operations by limiting air mobility, not to mention the atrocious large scale casualties. The inability to move troops by helicopter put every mission at risk on the road, and rapid response and reinforcement was crippled.
So this maybe nothing, but keep an eye open.
(And, I'm not an expert in the area, but here's the FAS page on the SA-7 Strela 2 and the SA-14 Strela 3.)
At this point there's no evidence to say that these were shot down, the military holds that all three went down for mechanical reasons, but I do want to point back to this unconfirmed AP report four days ago. (UPDATED LINK.)
In one recent case, an Iraqi official said $25 million in (private) Saudi money went to a top Iraqi Sunni cleric and was used to buy weapons, including Strela, a Russian shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile. The missiles were purchased from someone in Romania, apparently through the black market, he said....
The U.S. military said it had no information about the cause of the (F-16) crash. Gen. William Caldwell, a U.S. military spokesman, said he would be surprised if the jet was shot down because F-16's have not encountered weapons capable of taking them down in Iraq.
I would treat this as iffy rumor at this point, but even the threat of an effective anti-aircraft missile would be disastrous for the US.
If you look back to the Soviet experience in Afghanistan, it was the arrival of the US made Stinger AA missiles that really crippled their operations by limiting air mobility, not to mention the atrocious large scale casualties. The inability to move troops by helicopter put every mission at risk on the road, and rapid response and reinforcement was crippled.
So this maybe nothing, but keep an eye open.
(And, I'm not an expert in the area, but here's the FAS page on the SA-7 Strela 2 and the SA-14 Strela 3.)
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This would also include all the weapons and ammo we left behind us as we marched straight to Bagdad.
By Unknown, at 7:45 AM
Very true. Almost all the Sunni bombs, and all sects IED's, were constructed from those munitions for years. And the guns and other small munitions have been widely used.
But we haven't seen anything on the level of heatseeking AA missiles or specialized anti-armor weapons.
Saddam certainly had those, but we haven't seen them.
If these were introduced whether from Saddam's arsenal or from the outside, it would substantially alter the military problem.
Mike
By mikevotes, at 11:32 AM
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