That's new and ugly
A new tactic along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border.
Also, from the Guardian today,
A woman and three children were killed when rockets launched from about 300 meters (yards) inside Pakistani territory landed near the eastern town of Khost on Saturday, close to a large NATO base, provincial governor Arsala Jamal said. Eight people were wounded in the attack, most of them women....
Around the same time on Saturday evening, a rocket fired from Pakistan hit a hospital in the northeastern Afghan province of Kunar, killing a man and wounding another man and a woman, the provincial governor said.
Also at the same time, three artillery shells fired from Pakistan landed in an Afghan army camp and three more close to a NATO base in the eastern Afghan province of Paktika, the alliance said. There were no casualties, but NATO forces returned fire.
Also, from the Guardian today,
The Pakistani Frontier Corps has been heavily infiltrated and influenced by Taliban militants, sometimes joining in attacks on coalition forces, according to classified US 'after-action' reports compiled following clashes on the border..
....there are 'box loads' of such reports at US bases along the length of the Pakistan-Afghan border.
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Four years ago, the wingnuts would have been seething and squalling over the need to invade Pakistan.
Even though sometimes it seems as if nothing has changed, there has been a huge qualitative shift in the paradigm over "security issues".
For all practical purposes, Pakistan is now a marginal ally of the Taliban. It would take an invasion of Pakistan (and not just the FATA), along with the installation of a puppet government to resolve this even somewhat conclusively. And that is not going to happen.
By Todd Dugdale , at 10:02 AM
Yeah, and I really don't have an answer at this point. The Bush admin has screwed this up so badly, I really don't know where you go.
It was all those years wasted on Iraq.....
By mikevotes, at 10:06 AM
Afghanistan was a pretty mis-managed effort as well, though the extra Iraq troops would likely have turned the tide.
The Afghan effort was fought as a conventional war, rather than a counter-insurgency. We kept taking areas only to have re-take them months later after we moved on. There was this bizarre conventional war mindset that there were only X number of Taliban, so that each one killed brought you that much closer to "victory". Again, once they were replaced by new recruits, or fled into the FATA, we scratched our heads and puzzled over why "victory" kept slipping away from us.
Then there was the utter failure of the Afghan military to step up to the plate, and the warlords' mere lip service to Karzai. You can't really fault NATO for that, but this is where those extra troops in Iraq would have helped the most.
Last, and probably most important, was the complete disaster made of the reconstruction effort. Most of the money went to extremely high-paid staff (and their security), who rejected all small-scale projects in favour of huge projects that would never realistically materialise. Nobody is going to build a 5000-worker factory in a war zone with an unskilled population. So we had an explosion in the black economy, thus subsidising the Taliban and offering nothing but empty words of "liberation" to the masses. It's not outrageous to say that the Soviets offered a better economic incentive as occupiers than we did.
You can't eat freedom.
By Todd Dugdale , at 11:52 AM
Well, I also don't think we should underestimate the loss of time. In late summer 2002, before the push for Iraq got under way, the world was behind the US and what it wanted to do. At that time, Pakistan was much more cooperative than it is now.
Separate from any tactical questions, the opportunities that were lost into 2003-2005 by the launching and focus of the Iraq war are irrecoverable. In that space, we lost our ability and window to act.
Yes, you're right, mistakes, chaos, bad positioning did limit the Afghan war, but what I'm really talking about is the fact that we could have done alot more in Pakistan then than we can now. They certainly wouldn't have allowed an invasion, but they would have likely acquiesced to hunter squads, advisors and Pakistani troop monitors, and alot more US presence and pressure.
Iraq took away that period of action and in that time of looking away, left great ill will which now makes operating there next to impossible.
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