I don't get it
I'm not trying to be insensitive here, but I just don't see it.
What is the sexism? Is there some language I'm not aware of?
If I'm wrong, please, please, show me.
Later: So I went to the most shilling Clinton site I could find, and apparently anything that is not Clinton is sexist. Edwards as VP sexist. Obama as nominee, sexist. And somehow, I'm not sure how, picking another woman for VP over Clinton would be sexist.
An Ohio-based group of Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters say they’ll work actively against Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee, arguing that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media.
What is the sexism? Is there some language I'm not aware of?
If I'm wrong, please, please, show me.
Later: So I went to the most shilling Clinton site I could find, and apparently anything that is not Clinton is sexist. Edwards as VP sexist. Obama as nominee, sexist. And somehow, I'm not sure how, picking another woman for VP over Clinton would be sexist.
posted by mikevotes at
8:16 PM
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For every group there exists ambulance chases of victimization. There are black activists (Sharpton?) who see racism everywhere. There are white supremacists who see "reverse racism" everywhere. There are Jews who see anti-Semitism everywhere. And god knows there are fundamentalist christians who see, what, christian oppression everywhere... And there are "feminists" who see sexism everywhere.
Sadly, it dilutes the legitimate discussion of real oppression and gives deniers an excuse to scoff.
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Unknown, at 10:15 PM
Yeah. But I want to add that sexism is very, very real.
Maybe some of this is scrambling at a rationalization for the loss?
And there's also likely an echo chamber of sorts.As Clinton's hopes have fallen, the circle of supporters has likely shrunk, meaning that most who are remaining at this point are the most hard core who are now largely talking mostly amongst themselves amping everything up.
I don't know. I hate to walk into this, but it just struck me.
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mikevotes, at 6:05 AM
All the -isms are very, very real. (Except the poor oppressed white christian one). The fact remains there are those who are blinded and see everything in life in the context of their personal -ism.
While the -isms are real, not EVERYTHING that doesn't go our way is because of oppression. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as the reputed Freud quote goes. And sometimes the criticism of Hillary's words and actions are because of Hillary's words and actions.
I can understand the frustration of having you candidate lose. I cannot understand why you'd actively work against someone who supports 0% of your candidates policies merely because the one who supports 90% of your candidates policies beat your candidate in the primaries.
Yes, I understand a passionate verbal spew of frustration. I do it all the time, for crying out loud. I'd hope by the convention -- and certainly by November -- these folks will begin to feel better about things. I suspect most of Hillary's supporters will.
Still, there may be a cadre of Hillary supporters who, come November, will continue to rent their clothes and gnash their teeth at the oppression of it all. Some may even vote for McCain in a cathartic attempt to metaphorically piss on Obama and their Democrtic oppressors.
We all have our demons, I suppose.
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-epm, at 9:11 AM
I'm sure there are voters out there who refused to vote for Clinton because she's a woman. But I don't think the Obama campaign can be accused of playing the gender card, certainly not the way the Clinton campaign and Clinton herself have played the race card.
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Anonymous, at 11:38 AM
EPm, yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen anything that really set me off, but then again, I'm not in the group so my sensitivities are more asserted than innate.
I just can't think of anything I've seen that's overtly sexist.
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Abi, Maybe that's the comparison and standard I'm using.
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mikevotes, at 1:55 PM
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