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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Tuesday, January 08, 2008

Reports of Clinton's death were greatly exaggerated

I'm amazed. Anyhow, add this late release to the mix.

(AP) Clinton begins retooling campaign team

(And if you're nerding hard, CNN has county by county.)
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posted by mikevotes at 8:54 PM

12 Comments:

  • As were reports of Barack's divinity.

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:13 PM  

  • Two big college towns haven't yet reported (10:15pm EST), Plymouth and Durham. Doubt it means a change of rank, but the nerd in me had to point it out.

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:19 PM  

  • That's exactly what I was wondering.

    I remember in 2004 sifting through Florida on the phone with a friend familiar with the state.

    I don't know NH.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:25 PM  

  • Also Hanover/Lebanon hasn't reported... this is Dartmouth.

    So that Plymouth State College, UNH, and Dartmouth have not been counted.

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:28 PM  

  • The AP has officially called it.

    I'm amazed.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:43 PM  

  • AP and NBC call it for HRC.

    I believed the hype about Obama and NH.

    I'm glad I was wrong.

    The race goes on and MLK/Jesus/Obama (as he has lately been described on the blogs) will have his coronation delayed until February.

    By Blogger Reality-Based Educator, at 9:44 PM  

  • Gives us a better race, and likely a more evenly judged result.

    Also, please understand the Elvis/Jesus was intended as criticism to parody the crazy worship that was going on. I actually found it kinda scary.

    And I never did MLK. Frankly, I don't really see that parallel other than the fact that they're both black.

    Also, the coronation wasn't just on the blogs.

    Obama's conceding so I'm going to bed.

    Hard to keep the momentum of hope in a concession speech.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:52 PM  

  • Agreed on all point except one: Obama CAN keep the moment of hope in a concession speach.

    The more competitive the race is, the better to hone ones skills as a fighting campaigner.

    The differences between the Dems and Republicans are stark. McCain's victory speech was mostly about fear and his ability to save us from scary Muslims. Dear God, I hope this sort of manipulation-by-terror has lost traction on the broader American public.

    By Blogger -epm, at 10:03 PM  

  • Actually I wasn't meaning you, Mike - it was something I saw somewhere else on the blogosphere.

    By Blogger Reality-Based Educator, at 10:11 PM  

  • Why am I more inspired by an Obama concession speech than a Clinton victory speech?

    A week ago Hillary was polling at a double digit lead in NH. New she beats Obama by 3 points and calls herself the comeback kid? Sure the polls were showing a runaway Obama train, but that's probably due to a) the insane compression between IA and NH. and b) the traditionally undecided-till-the-last-second NH voter.

    She also thanked (to huge applause) the "young people" for their support. However, exit polls show only 2% of the <25 crowd.

    As I've said before, I don't have anything really against Hillary, but it's this sort of warping of reality that turns me off with establishment politics.

    By Blogger -epm, at 10:30 PM  

  • Two possible explanations for the huge disparity between the polls and the actual results:

    1. Younger people apparently favor Obama by a wide margin. But younger people typically are not as good about actually VOTING as older people are.

    2. When an underdog campaign becomes successful, there is a moment when people start asking themselves--"Wait--you mean we're actually going to elect this guy?"
    (Remember Howard Dean?)

    That said... Obama's concession speech was dynamite, Hillary's victory speech was white bread. He is poetry, she is prose. It's too bad her experience and his rhetoric are in different bodies.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:25 AM  

  • Next morning: I'll be very curious at the explanations as to the gaps between the polling and the result.

    Did the pollers get sucked into Obama's Iowa and change their polls accordingly?

    Tom, I'm wondering about the "snapback" in your second point, too. It would be very difficult to judge, but that's exactly the judgment the Clinton's were trying to force in their last two days of campaigning.

    ...

    EPM, Your point about the polls a week ago is a very salient one, but it's a comeback because everyone saw her as left for dead.

    And she's "thanking" young people because that's been one of her focuses (foci?) since she got creamed by them in Iowa. Try to crate the impression of support.

    ....

    Reality, I was thinking about it, and I did make a JFK reference. I'll bet that's what was in your mind.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:25 AM  

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