Todd, hard to say. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out, but, really, if your choice wa Romney or Huckabee, how enthusiastic would you be?
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Matt, I agree. it's a little complex, but it's designed to winnow choices through the second choice thing in a way that other states don't have to worry about.
I wish Iowa carried a little less exclusionary weight going forward. (I mean third place shouldn't be dead.) But I really like having the smaller states first, that way it's not just TV money.
I live in a caucus state, I've caucused three times, I understand the system, and it seems pretty stupid to me. Your vote should be secret, but it can't possibly be secret in a caucus. Instead, it's a way for the Party machine to manipulate things, as well as to keep tabs on how well certain people fall into line. I like "second choice", but you can have runoff voting on a secret ballot and achieve the same end.
Cripes you don't go to the gulag in a caucus. I like it because it forces you to make a stand. No weaseling behind a secret ballot. You make a choice and live by that choice. period. I guess I've never backed away from confrontation.
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Yeah. Big time. At least in Iowa.
I'm stunned by the trouncing Mitt got.
By -epm, at 9:01 PM
I'm glad that Hillary came in 3rd. We knew that the GOP wanted her in so they could take her down.
By matt, at 9:38 PM
I mentioned Mitt's trouncing by Huck, but looking at the number, Clinton and Edwards were trounced by a similar margin by Obama.
It's going to be an interesting 5 days here in NH.
By -epm, at 9:40 PM
EPM, I'm really amazed by the gaps as well. To me, it's not so big that Clinton came in third, but that she lost by 8%.
By mikevotes, at 10:21 PM
McCain's got Joementum!
A heck of a lot more people turned out for the Democratic primaries, despite the stupid caucus system, than did for the Republican straw vote.
Will we get to see the GOP implode?
By Todd Dugdale , at 12:20 AM
The caucus system works just fine. We're picking delegates from the start for the county, state and national conventions.
Just because it's not easily understood doesn't mean it's stupid.
By matt, at 6:19 AM
Todd, hard to say. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out, but, really, if your choice wa Romney or Huckabee, how enthusiastic would you be?
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Matt, I agree. it's a little complex, but it's designed to winnow choices through the second choice thing in a way that other states don't have to worry about.
I wish Iowa carried a little less exclusionary weight going forward. (I mean third place shouldn't be dead.) But I really like having the smaller states first, that way it's not just TV money.
By mikevotes, at 7:45 AM
I live in a caucus state, I've caucused three times, I understand the system, and it seems pretty stupid to me.
Your vote should be secret, but it can't possibly be secret in a caucus. Instead, it's a way for the Party machine to manipulate things, as well as to keep tabs on how well certain people fall into line.
I like "second choice", but you can have runoff voting on a secret ballot and achieve the same end.
By Todd Dugdale , at 8:57 AM
Agreed.
By mikevotes, at 11:04 AM
Cripes you don't go to the gulag in a caucus. I like it because it forces you to make a stand. No weaseling behind a secret ballot. You make a choice and live by that choice. period. I guess I've never backed away from confrontation.
By matt, at 11:18 PM
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