The fruits of 'Forward Together'
Check the stats in the last paragraph. One month into the Baghdad security operation, 45,800 buildings searched, 75 "suspects," and 1,000 weapons. That's it.
How long until those numbers add up to have any real impact?
It's a presence operation, and with 8,000 US troops, that presence is small and shifting and thus ultimately fruitless. (Originally LATimes, but linking elsewhere for no subscription.)
Also, "Iraqi parliament voted on Tuesday to extend the country's state of emergency for 30 more days. The measure has been in place for almost two years...."
How long until those numbers add up to have any real impact?
It's a presence operation, and with 8,000 US troops, that presence is small and shifting and thus ultimately fruitless. (Originally LATimes, but linking elsewhere for no subscription.)
In Adhamiya, a northeastern Baghdad neighborhood, American troops recently watched the ebb and flow firsthand. Killers had been dumping bodies by the dozens each week in the Sunni neighborhood. So many corpses were found on one particular street, residents nicknamed it the Street of Death. When American soldiers arrived in Stryker vehicles as part of the security crackdown, the bodies stopped appearing.
The Strykers left three days ago. Yesterday, soldiers found their first body since then on the Street of Death, a teenager who had been shot in the head......
As part of the security sweeps in Baghdad, American and Iraqi troops have searched 45,800 buildings, including 49 mosques, according to a U.S. military statement. They have detained 75 terrorist suspects and confiscated at least 1,000 weapons and found 26 weapons caches, the military said.
Also, "Iraqi parliament voted on Tuesday to extend the country's state of emergency for 30 more days. The measure has been in place for almost two years...."
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You might be interested in a first hand account from a guy from the 172nd SB. He used to be gung-ho. Reality seems to be setting in.
It is here.
I snipped it on my blog here.
My how things have changed. Or at least the perception of those things.
By Praguetwin, at 4:24 PM
That is pretty interesting.
The Stryker groups are the best trained/equipped to handle urban violence and control. (that was one of the primary requirements for the vehicle.) Of all the units, they seem the most capable of dealing with the complex urban environment, and to have them feeling failure....
I just wonder how the "kill people and break things" units are feeling.
Mike
By mikevotes, at 5:08 PM
Yea, you hit it right on the head. If these guys are starting to doubt, then defeat is near.
One thing I noticed is that he is convinced that the Shi'a militias must be taken on. I don't think that is possible with the current troop levels and deadly with any troop levels.
By Praguetwin, at 6:00 PM
I agree with both statements. If the goal is an Iraq without private paramilitaries, what we would consider a modern country, then, yeah, the militias have to be defanged.
And, you're right as well, that with current troop levels it would be impossible, and extremely difficult even with 400,000.
Inevitably, the final solution will leave some form of militias in place, and, even in a best case, there will be flareups of violence for decades. More than likely, there will be a tolerance of them like Hezbullah in Lebanon, an attempt to mainstream with representation in government. That's my hunch.
I don't see anyone willing to pay the cost of disarming them, and they have no real incentive to do so.
Mike
By mikevotes, at 9:20 PM
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