Counting down to Rove
Just a quick note. The three MSNBC shows I caught parts of tonight all had a countdown to a Rove indictment feel in at least one segment. Hardball did two bits where everybody but winger/outsider John Fund said he was going down. Olberman talked with Schuster who said, "And I am convinced that Karl Rove will, in fact, be indicted. And there are a couple of reasons why...."(Transcript at Rawstory.) (ThinkProgress has the video.)
And then I caught part of Scarborough in a commercial break for something else and they had three rightwingers(Scarborough, Tucker, Buchannon) and Larry O'Donnell who all said he's going down soon.
It's coming, folks. It's coming soon.
And then I caught part of Scarborough in a commercial break for something else and they had three rightwingers(Scarborough, Tucker, Buchannon) and Larry O'Donnell who all said he's going down soon.
It's coming, folks. It's coming soon.
posted by mikevotes at
8:39 PM
8 Comments:
oh god, i can't wait
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Graeme, at 11:13 PM
One can only hope! Pop the champagne corks when the day dawns!
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sumo, at 12:38 AM
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NEWSGUY, at 12:47 AM
My mistake. I scanned your piece and read "Roe" instead of Rove. As Emily Litella used to say, "Oh, that's very different, Never mind."
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NEWSGUY, at 12:49 AM
All the talking heads, though, seem to be talking "in the next two weeks." (I just can't call them newspeople if they're speculating.)
I don't know if that's just caution in not wanting to get too far out, or is based on yesterday's UPI report. As UPI is Moonie and was right wing when right wing wasn't cool, I discount their story.
If Leopold and Vandehei's reporting is accurate, we're at a point now where Fitzgerald is just "making a decision" what to charge Rove with. Leopold reported that the paperwork for indictment was more or less drawn up and Fitzgerald was weighing whether to include obstruction.
If that is true, and Fitzgerald is not waiting for a decision on cooperation or a plea deal from Rove or someone else, I don't see how his decision takes too mush longer.
Mike
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mikevotes, at 7:11 AM
Think he'll resign when the indictment comes? Of course he will not be 'fired' as was promised to us.
The talking points will include that Rove had already lost his policy position. Ignorining that's only happened in the last couple of weeks as the pressure on Rove has mounted and become tangible. Also ignoring that Rove remained in place for years, including through the last election, likely continuing to act unscuriously for political ends alone. Scott McClellan is out of the hot seat, so cannot be grilled further about his previously misleading statements.
And finally, Bush at 31% will probably be dreamed about in the WH after a few more weeks.
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zen, at 7:28 AM
Remember the talkingpoints the Bush cultists hit the talk show circuit with after Rove's demotion from policy adviser a few weeks ago?
All we heard from the Laura Ingrahams and the John Funds was how Rove was back doing what he's best at - political strategy - and his demotion was the best thing that could happen for Republicans because Rove would be able to pull another Diebold miracle in November and help them keep the House and Senate.
I bet we won't hear that spin about Rove after he's indicted. Instead we'll hear how Rove doesn't matter anymore, the GOP wants to localize elections this year anyway, each candidate will have his/her own strategist/consultant team and won't need Rove, Rove doesn't make policy decisions anymore so the WH can handle his departure with aplomb, Bolten replaced Rove as the power in the WH anyway, blah, blah, blah...
But the reality will be this: an already reeling administration will lose it's political genius, George Bush will lose his "Brain," Republicans will lose their "permanent majority" architect, and Rove will be spening a bit too much time trying to keep his fat ass out of the pokey to be involved in any way with either the '06 or '08 elections.
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Reality-Based Educator, at 7:44 AM
I think you're right. I think we'll hear that line,that "as Bush isn't aiming for reelection, Karl Rove doesn't matter." I would also expect them to throw up examples of how he wasn't good at policy, blaming every domestic failure on him they can.
And, of course the "underlying crime" meme coming from all those who wanted Clinton impeached because "it's not the sex it's the lying." Now, they want to make it about the sex.
I still think we're too far out to project impacts on the 2006 elections. They're mostly going to be about turnout, so the real impacts will be much closer. But, yeah, if he's the main organizing influence they're painting him as, he will be distracted. My bet is that he's more a consultant at large, stepping into close campaigns.
Mike
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mikevotes, at 11:02 AM
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