If Muslims wish to join the rest of the world, they have got to understand the separation of church and state and journalism.
Presumably, the government of Denmark had nothing to do with the publication of those cartoons. Muslims in countries operated by Islamic law do not understand how this works. They are apparently operating under the assumption that the government sponsored the cartoons. Wrong.
And in addition to that, Muslims of good will in Islamic countries really should be educated that when you disagree with an offensive article or image in the press, you do not go burning down embassies. Apparently American Muslims do understand this.
Amidst all the pictures of violence, this one jumped out at me because of the absolute certainty in her eyes that the book she holds is the utter and unvarnished truth and everyone should follow it.
It just echoed, to me, alot of the people here who force their moral beliefs on others claiming that their book is the ultimate truth. That legislation is okay because "it says so in the bible."
And, newsguy, you're right. But, I wonder to what degree the "arab street" wants to join the rest of the world. They are being almost dragged into it.
And you are right about the separation point. And, nothing to back it up, but I would guess that this violent group is a small minority, and that the majority of Muslims, even if they are offended, are not enacting or calling for violence.
The portrayal here in the States of them is very similar to the geralizing confusion they have of the west. That somehow this violence represents all Muslims.
What's all this crap about joining the "rest of the world"?! The developed (Christian) capitalist, democratic west constitutes a tiny part of the world. The arrogant assumption that we are a norm from which every other form of social organisation is a deviation is at best crude, self-serving essentialism and at worst overt racism.
I think the belief that the Danish government is responsible for the images probably has its roots in the fact that this is how the press in much of the Arab world operates. That said, the response of the Danish PM probably didn't help.
"I would guess that this violent group is a small minority, and that the majority of Muslims, even if they are offended, are not enacting or calling for violence." You don't need to guess. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. If they were all "enacting or calling for violence" you'd know about it!
I highly recommend Juan Cole's article on the controversy if you want to understand the background to what's going on. The problem of course is that most people don't give a fuck about that background and are far more interested in reinforcing their own prejudices.
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If Muslims wish to join the rest of the world, they have got to understand the separation of church and state and journalism.
Presumably, the government of Denmark had nothing to do with the publication of those cartoons. Muslims in countries operated by Islamic law do not understand how this works. They are apparently operating under the assumption that the government sponsored the cartoons. Wrong.
And in addition to that, Muslims of good will in Islamic countries really should be educated that when you disagree with an offensive article or image in the press, you do not go burning down embassies. Apparently American Muslims do understand this.
By NEWSGUY, at 8:51 PM
I'm no Koran scholar, but I believe the book is opened to the passage that preaches tolerance.
By Rex Kramer, Danger Seeker, at 9:28 PM
Amidst all the pictures of violence, this one jumped out at me because of the absolute certainty in her eyes that the book she holds is the utter and unvarnished truth and everyone should follow it.
It just echoed, to me, alot of the people here who force their moral beliefs on others claiming that their book is the ultimate truth. That legislation is okay because "it says so in the bible."
And, newsguy, you're right. But, I wonder to what degree the "arab street" wants to join the rest of the world. They are being almost dragged into it.
And you are right about the separation point. And, nothing to back it up, but I would guess that this violent group is a small minority, and that the majority of Muslims, even if they are offended, are not enacting or calling for violence.
The portrayal here in the States of them is very similar to the geralizing confusion they have of the west. That somehow this violence represents all Muslims.
Mike
By mikevotes, at 9:42 PM
What's all this crap about joining the "rest of the world"?! The developed (Christian) capitalist, democratic west constitutes a tiny part of the world. The arrogant assumption that we are a norm from which every other form of social organisation is a deviation is at best crude, self-serving essentialism and at worst overt racism.
I think the belief that the Danish government is responsible for the images probably has its roots in the fact that this is how the press in much of the Arab world operates. That said, the response of the Danish PM probably didn't help.
"I would guess that this violent group is a small minority, and that the majority of Muslims, even if they are offended, are not enacting or calling for violence." You don't need to guess. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. If they were all "enacting or calling for violence" you'd know about it!
I highly recommend Juan Cole's article on the controversy if you want to understand the background to what's going on. The problem of course is that most people don't give a fuck about that background and are far more interested in reinforcing their own prejudices.
By Disillusioned kid, at 11:53 AM
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