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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Sunday, January 01, 2006

NSA spying info was spread widely

The scope of the NSA spying is becoming clearer. It was(is?) a HUGE program which passed call content of Americans to several other agencies.

Information captured by the National Security Agency's secret eavesdropping on communications between the United States and overseas has been passed on to other government agencies, which cross-check the information with tips and information collected in other databases, current and former administration officials said.

The NSA has turned such information over to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and to other government entities, ......

At least one of those organizations, the DIA, has used NSA information as the basis for carrying out surveillance of people in the country suspected of posing a threat, according to two sources. A DIA spokesman said the agency does not conduct such domestic surveillance but would not comment further.....

DIA personnel stationed inside the United States went further on occasion, conducting physical surveillance of people or vehicles identified as a result of NSA intercepts, said two sources familiar with the operations, although the DIA said it does not conduct such activities.

This is getting really big. DIA conducting surveillance inside America? A tie in to the Talon program where the Pentagon was caught monitoring peaceful antiwar goups? The Bush admin may be in REAL trouble here if even one of those monitored isn't solidly linked to terror. And from the error rate on the renditions(reported around 10 %,) I think that's pretty likely.

As a bit of an editorial inclusion, I think as a statement of opinion by the WaPo, this article also has a sizeable rehash of the Nixon polices and the Church Commission(1975.)

And, could this be more buried than on New Year's Day?

UPDATE: I didn't notice earlier that this was bylined Walter Pincus. Pincus is well known for his connections/sources in the CIA. No judgement, just interesting.

ALSO: William Arkin says the Pentagon spying on Americans could be far worse than we thought and may be being operated in intentional violation of the law.


  • So, Mike, which side of Bush's mouth do you think is more accurate concerning the NSA, the one in 2004 or the one revealed by the press in late 2005?

    By Blogger liberal_dem, at 9:18 AM  

  • Holy crap! They're sharing the information...that they're not supposed to have in the first place.

    Good catch, Mike. I totally missed this on Google News. I'm just going to whore this post, if you don't mind. And BTW...TAG! You're it.

    Happy new year!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:48 AM  

  • Kvatch, answered on your blog,

    lib dem, I don't think we really have the truth on this yet. I have a feeling when the whole thing comes out, that Bush will be shown to have lied in that 2005 press conference when describing the "limited" nature of this.


    By Blogger mikevotes, at 10:27 AM  

  • Bush will be shown to have lied in that 2005 press conference

    And then?

    Will most Americans have a group yawn and then go back to their own petty lives?

    By Blogger liberal_dem, at 10:57 AM  

  • Very possibly.


    By Blogger mikevotes, at 1:14 PM  

  • The illegality continues to spread like a rock thrown into a pond. I swear, we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

    The only question will be this. Will anyone do anything about it? Will Republicans jump ship and hold Bush accountable? Will the voting public uphold the Constitution?

    These are the key questions of 2006 for me!

    By Blogger Greyhair, at 2:05 PM  

  • What about a 2nd American Revolution?

    Baracades in the streets?

    Yet the key question is this: will the National Guard shoot American citizens?

    By Blogger liberal_dem, at 9:42 PM  

  • Lib-dem,

    Some will, some won't.

    But I still haven't given up the hope that our country can be brought back through nonviolent means. So no violent revolution, but barricading the streets, yeah, I'm with that is that's what it takes.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:13 AM  

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