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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Saturday, September 20, 2008

Reinjecting race

The AP has a massively long article on a Stanford poll showing endemic racism in America. Duh.

Later: I didn't even notice the Ron Fournier byline. You might remember that Fournier has authored several very dubious articles favoring McCain and was offered a job in the McCain campaign at one point. So, treat this for what it is.

4 Comments:

  • The really weak analogy is when they try to tie it to polling. We are supposed to believe that there are significant numbers of Americans who tell pollsters that they will vote for Obama, but secretly will not due to racism.

    It is yet another pathetic attempt by the Right to resurrect the "Bradley Effect", which is widely discredited nowadays. Aside from the glaring methodological flaws in this "study", simply proving racism exists does not mean that polls are inaccurate. That is the leap of logic that those who push this "study" wilfully make. Certainly latent racism adds to McCain's support, but this is already accounted for in polling. This is one of the reasons that Rasmussen uses "robo calling". There is no reason for people to lie to a machine.

    I would say that a "reverse Bradley Effect" is also at work: people afraid to admit to others that will vote for a black (or half-white) candidate, but who really will in the privacy of the voting booth.

    It's even sadder that Republicans seem to be relishing how racism will help their candidate, rather than condemning it.

    By Blogger Todd Dugdale , at 2:36 PM  

  • Exactly. They're desperately trying to maintain the narrative that McCain's tied/ahead.

    I'm not so sure about the reverse Bradley (seems logical, but no data.)

    My take on the Bradley is a couple posts below.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:31 PM  

  • I'm not so sure about the reverse Bradley (seems logical, but no data.)

    You can't really "prove" either one (BE or reverse BE) without telepathy. All that this "study" did is prove that there are racists out there, then asserted that this fact "proves" that the BE will be a factor.

    My point is that it makes as much sense to believe in the reverse BE as it does the BE.

    By Blogger Todd Dugdale , at 3:44 PM  

  • I accept that. There is Bradley data from the past out there, although the analysis rests solely on the inference of race.

    There is data out there for the primaries this year (linked in that post below) and it seems to show no Bradley in the primaries.

    But, yeah, I get your point.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:49 PM  

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