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Monday, May 12, 2008

Picture of the Day - 2



(Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during a campaign event in Eleanor, W. Va. Sunday, May 11, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola))

posted by mikevotes at 7:42 AM

4 Comments:

  • Again, I'm reminded of that Matthews quote about the WWII Japanese soldier still defending his outpost in 1953...

    As passionate and dedicated as many of Obama's supporters are, I think there's a vein among the Hillary supporters who have an almost militant commitment to the Queen Bee. Real angry stuff. And I'm talking about people in varying positions of influence, not just worker bees among the hoi polloi. There's something angrier -- more belligerent, extreme -- in the Clinton camp that goes to a different emotional place than their equivalent in the Obama camp.

    Am I misreading this?

    By Blogger -epm, at 8:41 AM  

  • I would choose the words a little softer, but yeah.

    Two thoughts. When you're running "identity politics" whether it's Clinton with women or Obama with blacks, the losing of a campaign also seems a rejection of the individual.

    Second, Understand that they're coming down from a starting position of inevitability. They already believed they had won.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 2:07 PM  

  • Hmmm. I didn't intend to be all that harsh. Maybe "queen bee" was a bad choice...

    I think you illuminate two very good points: identity and expectations. For the Clinton team it's been a slow slog of shattered expectations (and entitlement?), which must be tough to take. For the Obama camp it's largely been a positive climb of ever-increasing hope. So I can see where the frustration of unmet expectations comes into play.

    I'm wondering if the level of seeming animosity toward Hillary by Obama supporters, and vice versa, is really part of that identity thing. Our inability to see the flaws on our own candidate manifests itself in "blaming" the other side for our misfortunes.

    Human emotions... Go figure.

    By Blogger -epm, at 2:54 PM  

  • I dunno. Maybe.

    I think you also have to take into account that there was alot of anti-Clinton before the thing began, but I would say alot of the emotion is because the Obama folks think they won after Texas/Ohio, and everything since then has been an effort to overturn the inevitable.

    There's that "inevitable" word again.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 3:33 PM  

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