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Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Thought

We're pretty much where we were after Ohio except with fewer states, fewer votes, and fewer delegates left available, right?

posted by mikevotes at 9:47 PM

6 Comments:

  • Yes, looks like the same old story for the Dems.

    Are any media outlets covering the 27% of the Republican primary voters who did NOT vote for McCain? For someone who has a lock on the nomination, that protest vote there seems pretty high....

    --Czexpat

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:47 AM  

  • I know. I noticed that, too. Hard to judge too much on a primary that's already decided, but Ron Paul at 15%?

    The other interesting thing is that it's protest votes from both sides. Huckabee from the religious right, and Ron Paul from the non-interventionist Libertarians.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 7:49 AM  

  • Will Ron Paul be a viable third-party candidate? Will he be the conservative/libertarian Nader to the Rebuplicans?

    If Obama was named Barry O'Brian would he have locked up the nomination by now? Are there significant pockets in American where "older and working class whites" simply will not vote for a black man, period, end of discussion? Am I seeing racism -- or at least political apartheid -- where none exists?

    By Blogger -epm, at 9:00 AM  

  • There's an undercurrent of racism everywhere. The northern states are no better than the southern.

    I think the south is more violent towards blacks because of their more violent and rigid adherence to the old testament "Moloch" god-image. The whole 'chosen people' crap that allows abominations like 'manifest destiny' to still permeate their groupthink. And conversely they're justified in their violence for 'purity' of the race and 'culture'.

    The north isn't as violent but is much more subtle. Omaha is a good example. The North O neighborhoods are still redlined. Nothing's changed in 100 years.

    By Blogger matt, at 9:16 AM  

  • Over here in Oregon we're hearing some noise about clever Republican voters becoming Democrat-for-a-day in order to vote Clinton, then reassuming their Republican status after the primary, thereby giving their party a punching bag for an opponent come November.

    Anything like that happen in Pennsylvania? I've been searching for it in the news, but haven't found any news.

    By Blogger r8r, at 9:49 AM  

  • EPM, that's an open question at this point. I would debate that because the people most likely to protest vote would be the fundies against McCainn, although I would guess they're more likely to stay home than vote for Ron Paul.

    It's possible Ron Paul could siphon a bit, but I don't know.

    However, if a fundie third party showed up....

    Also, I wouldn't rule out that Nader might be Nader this year. I haven't really kept up with his efforts to get on the ballot in the states, but I've always thought the Clinton not voting for Obama or Obama not voting for Clinton was far more likely to go to a Nader or Green vote than to McCain.

    .....

    Matt, Yeah. I think the question is whether Obama is considered as a person or as a media figure, you know? That racism, that is here as well, isn't really as manifest in the abstract as in the real.

    (I think one of the great unwritten stories is that the reason Obama does well young is that the young aren't really that racist while the over 65's break hard against him.)

    ....

    8r, I havern't seen anything like that out of Pa. Those registered this year, new voters/Repub switch broke for Obama 62/38, but I haven't seen Repub switch broken out.

    In Texas, I ran across a bunch of Republicans voting. A few were just with the intent of screwing things up, a few were with the intent that the Dems are going to win in the fall, so they voted (both Obama and Clinton) to try and shape that later result.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 10:48 AM  

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