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Born at the Crest of the Empire

Thursday, February 07, 2008

Now they're just showing off....

With the news of the Clinton fundraising woes below, the Obama campaign is flashing their fundraising ability.

As of right now, the Obama campaign claims to have raised $7,018,232 online "since the polls closed" Tuesday. (Check the current total.)

The latest Clinton goal is $3 million in 3 days.

(Barack Obama watches a campaign rally video on a journalist laptop while other members of the media look on during his flight from Washington, D.C. to New Orleans Wednesday, Feb 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer))


  • Beware the fickle finger of fate... They better not get too cocky. It'll bite them in the ass.

    By Blogger -epm, at 8:41 AM  

  • As we discussed below, Clinton wants to be the underdog. It'll humanize her.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 10:42 AM  

  • ...and as I commented below, I don't think you become the underdog when you're beaten by the underdog. You just become the loser.

    It's not that I don't get how she's trying to spin the underdog thing. It actually plays into the victim thing I often hear the campaign whining about every time the campaign comes under criticism.

    By Blogger -epm, at 11:00 AM  

  • I'm going to lift up the other comment thread to here sow we can have the conversation in one place.

    EPM said,

    That (McCain's transition from frontrunner to dead to underdog to frontrunner) was a long arc, my friend. And the result of a very, very different dynamic going on in the GOP.

    Hillary hasn't been adding new supporters, but she's got an extremely loyal base. She simply needs to buck-up this base in the states still to come.

    It doesn't matter if the punitocracy doesn't buy into the "underdog" spin -- or even if they ridicule it. All that matters is that she gets sympathy and support from her base. Indeed, if the punitocracy ridicules the underdog spin, this will only strengthen Hillary's base. They seem very protective (defensive?) of her and often see her as a victim in the political exchange.

    So the underdog thing could be for "domestic consumption," so to speak and not so much for the general public.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 1:21 PM  

  • That was very long arc, and McCain had to disappear for awhile. Time is definitely a factor in this.

    I agree that the Clinton underdog spin is about her base and campaign. It's part of the larger effort to buy time until Texas and Ohio.

    I think that's their great fear, that a run of Obama wins, even if they're small will create a sense of momentum against her. If they can get to Texas in a decent position, she's got a shot to jump up.

    She'd likely lose among the young, a big Dem demographic in Texas, but alot of strength among long time Dems, and Latinos.

    I'm sure I'll talk more about Texas as we get closer.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 1:26 PM  

  • Yeah, Obama's probable string of victories coming up is going to pose a big momentum problem for Hillary... seems like the crucial thing for her is to keep the margins small and not lose too much ground in the delegate count.

    The Latino vote looks like a huge weakness on the Obama side, and not just now, but in the general election too. It's entirely possible for McCain to win a large chunk of Latino votes in some swing states.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:47 PM  

  • Now this is interesting. Hillary campaign claims raised $6M online in 24 hrs.

    So the spin and the rope-a-dope continues.

    By Blogger -epm, at 3:03 PM  

  • Little Hillary from Experience Farm, was down to her last nickel. She had to mortgage the farm for $5M just to but gas in the ol' campaign wagon. Farm hands Dust and Rex said, "It's OK, ma'am. Keep yer money. We'll keep a-workin' even if'n you cain't pay us."

    When the town folks heard about Hillary's plight, they rallied to her aid. And how! Why, in just 24hrs they'd raised $6M! The wagon was gassed up and ol' Dusty and Rex got their four-bits without missin' a beat, so's their kids didn't have to go hungry after all.

    Hillary, choking back tear, exclaimed "Why, I declare! I had now idea I meant so much to so many people. Yes. I WILL go on. In their name of Peggy Sue of Happytown USA, who sold the Raggedy Anne doll she got from her crippled gran'ma, I WILL go on."

    Cue the strings; rise to crescendo. It frickin' Frank Capra, baby! Brilliant.

    By Blogger -epm, at 3:58 PM  

  • Did they actually say it was online? I saw the number, but I didn't see the definition.

    And, yeah, as we started out thi morning, there was a point in admitting the $5 million loan.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 4:33 PM  

  • The link I referred to from Time says "on the web."

    Brilliantly played. If you're the kind of voter who likes to be played, that is.

    By Blogger -epm, at 6:56 PM  

  • Snarky comments aside, Hillary has some very strong supporters who are sending in money because they aren't taken in by the Obama groupie thing. (is that a snarky enough come-back?) I am not that taken in by Hillary but I get pushed into her corner a little bit more each time I hear the comments about her false tears. I cannot help but think that those making those comments (as if they have any relevance) do not understand women very well.

    By Blogger Ptelea, at 7:28 PM  

  • So are you asking me to understand that all women moved to tears are faking? If a man campaigning did the exact same thing under the same circumstances everyone (including 98% of women) would have said "sissy". You can't have it both ways. She did not tear up over a tragedy..she teared up over a reflection of "trying her hardest"...I would have had all the compassion in the world for her if she teared up while talking to a loved one of a dead soldier but to tear up over a self-comment of "trying to make a difference to people (aka me, me, me -- please see the sacrafice I am making for you)" is patently a load of crap! And the beauty of it all is she knew it all along!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:02 PM  

  • Anonymous - are you addressing me?I am asking you to understand the opposite! From my experience - women do tear up and get a bit emotional (expressed by the release of a tear or two or even more)over many things and certainly not restricted to something major like a death. In our society, from my experience, men seem to have a hard time dealing with a woman who expresses any emotion that way. I do not think that Hillary is faking the tears. From my experience, it is not something any professional woman wants to do in public because it is always ridiculed. She is not winning people over by crying. So if she is as calculating as many of you seem to think she is, she would NOT be shedding tears to improve her image.

    As far as men and crying - the only thing that comes to mind are male sports figures who routinely cry when they win or lose or retire. Are they hounded by accusations of being calculating and false?

    By Blogger Ptelea, at 9:15 PM  

  • Ptelea, Anon is very anti-Clinton. I don't think that comment was aimed at you personally. If I thought it was, I'd zap it. That's the house rule, mo personal insults across comments.

    As for the tears thing, that was so long ago I'm not even going to mess with it. I don't want to fight tonight.

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 9:27 PM  

  • simple fact: her tears strengthened her base of women as they then rallied in an effort to protect her. Hello? Not a winning strategy? it happend and two days later she wins NH! When polls showed otherwise. I am anti-Clinton but not anti-woman. She cried poor-mouth yesterday and now she raises almost 7 million...really 2 million after she pays herself back...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:45 PM  

  • I do appreciate the civility here. I am not even proposing that it is impossible that Hillary used tears for some gain. But I stand by my conviction that the last thing a woman in her position would want to do is open herself up to this kind of vulnerability.

    By Blogger Ptelea, at 9:47 PM  

  • FWIW, I've never thought Hillary's emotions were anything but authentic.

    In my little snark, the "teary moment" was an homage to George Bailey from It's a Wonderful Life

    Yeah, there's a cult of personality with both candidates. To some Obama is Moses, and to others the Clintons are royalty.

    By Blogger -epm, at 10:17 PM  

  • Anon - that is far from a simple fact. There is no way to measure a cause and effect relationship between the two.

    But if you're right - we can just sit back and watch Hillary cry her way into the White House.

    This is not about being pro- or anti-women. This is about trying to raise awareness about the possible motivation for someone's behavior.

    epm- a big part of me wants to be done with this phase, the nomination phase. Like Mike - I wish we could breeze through this without battle wounds and start planning the strategy for beating...McCain.

    By Blogger Ptelea, at 10:38 PM  

  • That's my bottom line concern. I'm pretty happy with both these choices. But my main concern is washing this group of Republicans out of the administration. If McCain were to win, a number of them would surely get promoted and stay on.

    And, as for the tears, what happened before New Hampshire doesn't matter that much where we are now.

    I'm going to stop paying attention to this comment thread, so please, play nice

    By Blogger mikevotes, at 8:54 AM  

  • i always try to play nice but I do not see the Clinton regime a great deal different than W's (except for blantant constitution trampeling). Pro-war, pro-getting their buddies rich (including big insurance), and more nafta-like movements. The Clinton regime and constant Clinton-hatred loving MSM created the perfect environment for W to get traction. Why subject ourselves to it again. Everyone knows the Clinton-hatred MSM machine will kick-in and we watch another 8 years of opportunity lost...I appreciate the civility of this blog and continue to rec it to friends and foes alike. Peace.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:51 PM  

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